No surprises at all! The outcome of the nation's first free ballot came largely as expected with a second round featuring the two top front-runners Sidi Ould Cheick Abdallahi (Sidioca) and Ahmed Ould Dadah (AOD). There were only two ways we could have had a winner in the first round. One, to have the military council fielding a candidate, rigging the vote and plunging us back into dictatorship and political uncertainty. The other is to have a strong and popular contender among the 19 who stood in the lections and who is capable to garner above fifty percent of the vote to win the race. Neither scenario happened for the CMJD chose to stay away from elections and oversee a civil democratic handover of power while the candidates were all too weak and unconvincing for the Mauritanians to allow anyone of them a landslide victory. And here we are, with a runoff and an electoral start over. But did we get it right or wrong? Did the message get across to Sidoca and AOD, when the people forced upon them a second round? Let us try to paint a picture of what is going on here.
For burgeoning democracies like ours, a second round is always a welcome turn of events. It's a healthy sign that the vote has been transparent and free and that we’re beyond the stage when the outcome of the polls is decided by dictatorships in power (Taya ente vem). With this race turning out to be such a tight-run thing we can congratulate ourselves that we have made a big step forward. It also tells that whoever wins he has to think of accountability for his policies and before undertaking any political gamble, he has to remember that eighty percent of the population didn't vote for him. Whether it's AOD or Sidioca, the next president has to watch his steps carefully because he received less than thirty percent of the vote and has consequently to work in terms of compromise and reach out for national consensus. Otherwise he will alienate large segments of the population and may risk a dangerous backlash. The message Mauritanians wanted to drive home to their next president is that polls are not the end of it and that a lot of work has to be done over the next five years for him to win the support of his people. It's not going to be an easy ride for the next winner who has to work hard to win a support Mauritanians declined to give him unless he merits it.
Yet a second round is not the best scenario, notwithstanding the above mentioned advantages. It's more about politicking and alliance-building than anything else. Unlike the first round when the candidates relied on programmes to promote their chances while appealing directly to voters, the ticket to victory in the second round depends on how much concessions Sidioca and AOD will be willing to make to get the backing of the candidate evicted in the first round. It's ironical that the losers are going to decide the winners of the election, those voted out by the people will come back to determine the future president. This is why we expect to see a lot of haggling, bargaining and concessions over the following week or so. Already some of the worst losers have joined ranks with either Sidioca and Ahmed and the rest will follow suit when their demands are met. The impact of this on the next government is tremendously serious. Not only we have now two weak candidates but also they will be weakened further by the compromises each should be making to win. Compromises might range from forming national unity government to doing without two or more sovereign ministerial portfolios, etc. To give you a sense of what I have in mind just think of a government line up that has AOD as president with Massoud or ZZ as PM. How a government like this one is going to work is anyone's guess. And instead of a strong president and a harmonious cabinet we will have an explosive mix which will bog us down in the next term. It's unfortunate that as much as the next five years will be crucial for instituting true democracy, turning around the economy and addressing the thorny issues of national unity, it seems that we have to come up against God knows how many barriers before we have a government capable of footing the bill for the job.
mom
112 comments:
MOM WE MISS YOU THANKS GOD
FINALLY YOU BACK
Great to see you back and to read this great blog. True, a second round will yield a lot weaker government which will suffer from its contradictions and interest conflict to the end of the five year term. But our hopes at this stage are pinned on curbing absolute power and to let those in the decision making circles that power is a smart mix of ruling and leading. To rule is to have a good sense of leader ship and to lead you have to be strong and capable of ruling. Thanks again mom for this fantastic and informative platform.
LAVRAK
Mom, it's been an eternity. We thought we lost you and thanks God you're back. Realist and deep-insighted as it is, I have to say, though, that you're painting a black picture of the future government. I'm sure that Sidioca and Dadah are now going through their most difficult moments ever, dealing with all those bargains and concessions. I don't envy them.
May be it's time to have a tv face-to-face between Sidioca & AOD. This way we can see who is up to the challenge even though the ballot boxes choose later to eliminate him.
If Dadah succeeds to win Massoud to his side he will have no problem to win. With the Islamists and Hanana already behind him and Massoud joining Dadah will be president even though he lost Mauloud and Sarr to Sidioca. Fifth and sixth rate "losers" won't harm Dadah or do good to Sidioca.
Mom
It's such a great pleasure to have you back. Keep informing the public and us.
Ano: 03:33
You forget ZZ who came third and swept in the Houdh Chargi. My view now is that wherever ZZ goes victory will follow him. Of all the "losers", he commands the support of the most prominent businessmen and tribal chiefs. We should not forget for a moment the score ZZ got in Atar, in addition to Alhodh Chargi. Popular in the north and the east and with the kind of money flowing in his camp, zz will be a great asset to any of the two candidates. The problem is that buying his support will be very very costly.
Hi mom, great job indeed
Now let's face it, we've only two scenarios ahead of us. One to vote Sidioca as president and undermine the whole transition period starting from the coup itself and ending with the elections. Or Vote for Dadah and keep the momentum on.
Hi everyone,
I was out on spring break partying somewhere, maybe cancun, where the country was going through its toughest moments. I feel guilty and I need to participate more to take off my shoulders some of that guilt.
by the way i was joking :)
Anyway, here we are in the second round of the elections with only two candidates, AOD & SIDIOCA. Everyone must be responsible, and vote for the person who he/she thinks will be better for the country. It's a serious responsibility, so we should take it seriously.
The only way to measure the credentials of the 2 candidates is by looking at their past experiences or their entourage. Dont talk to me about the agenda, it's irrelevant.
AoD, no one doubts his administrative abilities, he has led important cabinets, and he got the profile needed (education,career&social networks)
As a person he is very straight, always in the mosque and "souratou 6aybin". His entourage is not perfect but among the "best."
Sidioca, He also led important cabinets although the leadership wasn't quite the same,according to "the locals," he did take public money, which should be intolerable.
He was emprisonned by Taya for the same reason, if Taya thinks u're stealing too much, it's a real issue.
SIDIOCa entourage is the worst, beleive me it doesn't get any worse. With cheikh avia, lemrabott sidimahmoud, and Le petit oul mbarek, in other words "tis3etou rahd6ine." U might tell me he's just using them, i will respond he's too naive. The man is known to be a push over "bla chakhsiye." Which means we will be governed by the bande tis3etou rah6ine.
The bande is doing everything possible to win, I heard they are buying the votes in Trarza and charg, they are leading a propaganda against AOD and ehel Guible as a general. so Please, if you re voting, vote for AOD, he needs every vote since he's facing people who have been stealing our coutry's goods for more than 20 years.
If you dont like him, dont hate him to the point that you are willing to sacrifice the country as a whole.
I am hoping you will think about it and make the right decision. Especially you, the intellectual elite, you should not have a second thought about this 2nd round.
That was some food for thought.
talk to u later!
un chinguitois
fully agree with your analysis as well as your call for a vote for AOD. we're so close to victory to make room for defeat (God forbid).
Any news about who's joining who?
un ghebloi
i agree with every singel word you said we should bary the roude for those (tis3atou rahtin)
hello guys
i do agree with un chinguittois that AOD is better for the country than sidioca with his gang we have just 8days left and after that we have two possibilite one that we are going be taken backwards or to have a new country
guys just think of it do uthink that the band that un chinguittois mention r with sidioca for his pretty face or b coz of his progamme? i think u can answer it
mom what's up where r u we need u
You guys may be putting too much stake into the losers and their ability to sway their followers vote. I don’t think the majority of ZZ’s voters will join him if he decides to back AOD, or Messaoud voters will join him if he backs Sidioca. It will be a nice, from a media stand point, to have the announcement that so and so in backing either candidates but I seriously think that the over all influence on the votes is limited. The Taya’s machine is actively working behind the scene to have a grass root effort to “buy” votes for Sidi. Unfortunately, I think they will succeed and SIDIOCA will be our president. I would’ve said unfortunately if AOD was the winner as well. We are in a lose-lose situation. The only hope we have is that SIDIOCA have the personality NOT to use his current entourage and bring real change. I am not holding my breath.
Californian
Ahmed Ould Dadah will be our next president. Full stop.
Hi guys
UN Chinguittois, Californian, Rim Politician, LAVRAK and the other anos. It's such a great pleasure to see you after the long and tiring first round. It was so boisterous and hectic we felt it was an eternity. Yet we congratulate ourselves for this historical milestone that we came to achieve. Conducting a free and fair lections is not an easy job in this part of the world. True, huge challenges lie ahead but we will be able to meet them provided we followed down this road.
It's always tempting to hazard a guess about the outcome of this second round. The stakes are high and we all feel entangled in the electoral treadmill. Yet we have to be careful not to pinch high hopes on any scenario unless it turns out to be just the reflection of wishful thinking. Up to now, Sidioca and AOD are locked in a tight race, each going about it his usual way. We should not rush to conclude that Sidioca is loosing ground to AOD because none of the top "losers" have joined him. In fact Sidioca doesn't rely on the support of the political elite to win. He has a different winning strategy which includes pumping more easy more in the race and betting on the weight and influence of traditional tribal chiefs to carry the day. This strategy has propelled him to the top in the first round and there's no reason why he shouldn't be trying it again. The question that has to be asked is which voters he will be targeting when all the other losers give their backing to AOD. I think that Sidioca will be banking on gaining the support of ZZ's electoral base. Why? Simply because zz has bought it in the first round and Sidioca will be tabling a more tempting offer for it in this round. Honestly, if AOD fails to make headways in Sharg he will be making it easy for Sidioca to sweep in there, and then a stern warning will be sent to all of us!
mom
mom
it's great to c u
according to saharamedia ZZ have decided to back up sidioca which means taya regim is back anyway we have to thanks god to have a real democratie and i hope that who is going to be the president i3oud vihe elkheyr
Guys it's the weekend wake up
Believe me guys, Sidioca will concede his defeat in this round. It just unconceivable that we have gone all this way to have Taya's followers back. Another point, I can't see why someone like Dahan eventually chose to be with Sidioca. This is a crazy election, indeed!
Rim politician, Sahramedia didn't say it's hundred percent sure ZZ is going to Sidioca. The leaked information says it's just likely.
Mom, you made a point there when you say that ZZ's voters are for sale or up for grabs. The difference is that he has money but no followers and AOD will swing them to his side.
What about the face-to-face between these two guys. Come on we deserve a lot more than an election won by agreements and deals struck behind the doors.
LAVRAK
It will definitely be a suicidal move for Massoud to support Sidioca. The only credibility that he or any other member of the anti -Taya opposition is their fight against corruption and injustice. Now to rally Sidioca will send the country steps back and may trigger a political instability. There's only one explanation for Massoud being happy to send Mauritanian down this line and face the attendant risks, it is that he has been a traitor all along.
I WILL VOTE FOR AHMED OULD DADDAH .
I AM SURE HE WILL NOT RECOGNIZE THE RESULT IF HE LOOSE DO YOU AGREE WITH ME.
If AOD contests the polls he has to come up with solid facts to substantiate his claims. But why do you talk about it now, do you want to scare us of AHMED. Your plan failed, we love AOD.
mom,
I don't know who you are but I have to thanks you for the good job and the information you are supplying to us.
Ould Haidala warns against political instability following the final results of the second round. He said that some members of the CMJD have sought to influence the vote, making change only cosmetic and helping the former regime to maintain control of power.
Holly .... We are forgetting the CMJD factor in the second round ....
Above ano:
You're right the CMJD is there one way or another. But the problem is that all we know about it's involvement in the chess game are speculations, we're sure of nothing. Sad. Well, we can always repeat and build on rumors about O. Abdel Aziz's support for Sidioca, if only to keep the issue under light.
After an absence of few days, I checked the electronic news and I see something that is certainly obvious to you:
- ZZ, Dahane are joining Sidioca
- Hanena/Islamistes, Sarr and Messaoud will join AOD.
The rest of the first tour candidates will not not influence much, besides Haidallah when he speaks his mind and I just got the impression from my readings that he will assist AOD.
So, AOD may be the winner of the second tour. CMJD will try to push for Sidioca. No one at this stage knows who will win.
AOD is back after strong suspicions about his chances. Just now he received the support of Flam and Ba Alassan. Good news indeed. Go ahead, "ya raeesna."
Guys, more and even more caution. Avoid changing emotions like winds, it's not that Sidioca got some support from some losers few days ago that he for sure will be the winner. The same also applies to AOD, Alassan and Flam have very little influence in the valley and won't improve Ahmed's standing. After ZZ has chosen Sidioca we have to wait to see where Masoud is going to settle down, his support will now mean a lot to both candidates. For Ahmed, MASOUD IS HIS WAY BACK AND FOR SIDIOCA HE IS DAMN SURE THE TICKET TO VICTORY.
LAVRAK
BREAKING NEWS:
Massoud decides to support Ahmed and will announce it tomorrow in a press conference, this on ALHADATH.
Are you kidding me, Ahmed can not swing all these people in one go. Where's Sidioca, are you asleep? there must be something wrong with this.
You Mauritanians don't merit democracy, such a stupid people who'is voting now for Sidioca. Do you want Taya and his cronies back? ZZ has rallied Sidioca and Massoud and Maulud they say they're still thinking. What the hell they think about. It's damn clear. Either you rally the devil Sidioca and throw us back into tyranny or rally Ahmed and give us a hope for moving forward. They say, we're thinking! Damn it.
Last Ano, take it easy I am afraid ur blood pressure is high at the moment. Everyone has the right to think, and hopefuly they will make the right decision. Take a glass of water and relax everything will be fin, I promess lol.
After calming down the kid, I get to greet u.
How's everyone doing?
A week and we will, enchalahou, know the president, it wont be a surprise, it's one of the two "leading" men.
The latest infos show SIDIOCA is leading and going for a victory,if nothing is done. That means I should react, you should react, and everyone should react. This is scaring, The dreams everyone had after August 3rd are slowly disappearing, so is our hope for a nation of democracy and liberties.
I still can't believe that we have the oppoertunity to move forward and we are not taking a full advantage of it, not only that but we are doing exactly the opposite. It's definetly scaring the hell out of me. I am horrified :(.
If anyone thinks that he will "personally" benefit with SIDIOCA and his band on power, he is wrong. They will do as they were doing with Taya, probably worse. And none of our priorities will be addressed, none.
We should think independently on this matter, in my view it's as clear as it gets. Voting for Daddah is a strong message to "tis3etou rah6in" that we can't take it anymore, we deserve better.
Things to have in mind before you vote:
Think about the hundred of thousands of people who live under the poverty line, because these guys are buying BMWs for their sons.
Think about the Hospital, and the conditions of your countrymen who can't afford to go to clinic Chiva. These people are dying because others ( sidioca's entourage) are taking "far to be deserved" vacations in Spain and France.
Think about the youth and how they grow up with no light of hope for better conditions. The education system is among the worst in the entire world, la bande doesnt care. their kids are in Lycee Francais.
And the list goes on....
You may not like AOD, but a decent citizen CANNOT chose "tis3etou rah6in" over him. He simply can't.
If you are among the few who didn't suffer from what These people had done to the country, remeber that you are a minority. However your vote can affect in, both ways, the lives of
+2 millions.
I am doing my best here. Having said that Godd night!
AOD will win despite the support of the corrupts.
ZZ has just supprted SIDIOCA but I hope those who vote for him won't follw his bad decision.
Massoud and Maouloud haven't decided whom will support yet, but I wish they will lastly support their friend AOD!
AOD will win despite the support of the corrupts.
ZZ has just supprted SIDIOCA but I hope those who vote for him won't follw his bad decision.
Massoud and Maouloud haven't decided whom will support yet, but I wish they will lastly support their friend AOD!
When we start hearing people in high positions talking about fear of fundamental change and the need for rational and gradual reform we have to sound the alarm. This note of caution from influential people always has one meaning, defending the status quo. Now, we start hearing this language popping up every once in a while. It says that Sidioca is the right man for this "difficult" times because he represents continuity and that voting AOD into office would be suicidal. According to this logic AOD features as a someone ahead of the times and having him in power will set the country down an uncharted road. This summary talk comes down to this: we're afraid of radical reform because we're not ready yet. But what if the continuity means continuity of suffering, poverty and state tyranny. There's no doubt that AOD is not the guy his adversaries wants to paint him. He doesn't stand for complete break with the past or the way the country has been run for decades. On the contrary, he shares more with Sidioca's clan than he stands out from them. So charges of radical reforms simply don't hold when we're speaking of AOD. Yet, better have someone who doesn't incarnate change but not fearful of it than someone who is opposed to it. The difference between AOD and Sidioca is that the first can set change in motion though on a slow pace while the second is against the very idea of change itself.
mom
You're right mom, but I want to tell you that AOD is still well in the race and his chances are just as great as Sidioca. So don't lend an ear to those in power or those seeking it. Thanks a lot for the information.
Read on Saharamedia: Sedioca and AOD agree to a face- to- face on tv next Tuesday at 21:00 pm and on radio the same time next Friday.
dear All,
Please don't forget the face to face between the 2 candidates on Tuesday by 21:00 (Nktt time). It may take 3 hours + 1-2 hour to think what the heck candidate a or b meant by saying a certain word. So, have your dinner earlier, have lemmain atay or your coffee machine near you. Remember: there is no publicity at TVM. So, don't think about moving away from your TV or computer. Cheers. Tidinit
Tidinitt, we expect a hot debate from you on the face to face after it would have been aired.
I will and I can't wait. I just dropped a request to canalh to discuss the future of the junta after the elections. This is after reading a 2006 blog from El Hilla (http://el7illa.blogspot.com/2006/07/quel-future-pour-le-cmjd.html). Hope someone will ask that question to both candidates during the TV debate. We should know. I am unfortunately living in Southern Asia and I will not be able to ask that specific question. Regards. Tidinit.
N.B: there is again a row after the nomination this Friday of Embassy personnel all accross the world. Some are saying that it is to thank in advance some people (communities/tribes?) for voting Sidioca on 25 March or 11 March, some others saying it is blatant racism as very few negro-africans are in the list and some saying that most or a big part of the nominees are not from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs (some are genuine diplomats for sure as I knew few names). So, if the above is true it indicates that the transitional government and all or part of CMJD are still interested in interfering with the outcome of this election. I know some of you will say that the interference is not true, but I maintain my statement, jusqu'a preuve du contraire apres l'election. Good night. Tidinit
Ahmed Ould Dadah is our future president, Sidioca is our future nobody.
No one can analyse the debate better than x Ould y. If anyone meets him, please let him know that he is missed.
hi guys
TIDINIT can tell me where did u read the nomination of the embassador plz
Check in Cridem. Cheers. Tidinit. Sending you another link with the same text.
The full list is below. Tidinit
17 mars 2007 : Un grand mouvement de nominations
Un grand mouvement de nominations s'est produit dans le corps diplomatique ce vendredi, certains observateurs n'ont pas manqué de qualifier ce grand remaniement de l'échiquier diplomatique Mauritanien de " dosage tribal "
Ambassade de la RIM à Abidjan :
" Ahmed Bezeid Ould BOWAH, Conseiller de 1ère Classe
" Mouhamedou Ould BOKKI, Secrétaire 1ère Classe
Ambassade de la RIM à Abou Dhabi :
" Taleb Ould Mohamed Ould HAMAMINE, Conseiller de 1ère Classe
" Ezza Mint SIDI MOHAMED , Secrétaire 1ère Classe
" Mohamed Ould BAMBA, Secrétaire 1ère Classe
Ambassade de la RIM à Alger :
" Mahfoudh Ould Mohamed AHMED, Conseiller de 1ère Classe
Ambassade de la RIM à Amman :
" Ikabrou Ould Mohamed, Conseiller de 1ère Classe
Ambassade de la RIM à Bamako :
" Djibril Cissé, Conseiller de 1ère Classe
" Sidi Mohamed Ould Sid'Ahmed LEHBIB , Conseiller de 1ère Classe
" Mohamed Ould Ely, Conseiller de 2ème Classe
Ambassade de la RIM à Banjul :
" Ba Mamadou M'BARE, Conseiller de 1ère Classe
" Naji Ould AMAR , Conseiller de 1ère Classe
" Amar Salem Ould H'BIB, Conseiller de 1ère Classe
Ambassade de la RIM à Berlin :
" Abdellahi Ould KEBD, Conseiller de 1ère Classe
" Fatimétou Mint MOHAMED SALECK , Conseiller de 2ème Classe
Ambassade de la RIM à Bruxelles :
" Mohamed Yahya Ould El Moctar Hassen, Conseiller de 2ème Classe
" Zaki DIENG , Secrétaire 1ère Classe
Ambassade de la RIM à Caire :
" Mohamed Ould BOUASIRYA, Conseiller de 2ème Classe
" Jemal Ould Bah , Conseiller de 2ème Classe
Ambassade de la RIM à Dakar :
" Moulaye Ould Moulaye MOHAMED, Conseiller de 1ère Classe
" Abdellahi Ould Sid'Amine , Conseiller de 1ère Classe
" Marièm Coro BA, Conseiller 2ème Classe ;
" Abdel Baghi Ould MOUHAMEDOU, Secrétaire 1ère Classe
Ambassade de la RIM à Damas :
" Baha Ould EL GHOURBI, Conseiller de 1ère Classe
" Cheikh Ould BAH , Conseiller 2ème Classe
Ambassade de la RIM à Doha :
" Weddadi Ould SIDI HAIBA, Conseiller de 1ère Classe
" Mohamed Ould HAMOUD, Conseiller de 2ème Classe
Ambassade de la RIM à Koweit :
" El Alem Ould Abdel BAGHI, Conseiller de 1ère Classe
" Fatimetou Mint ISSELMOU ,Conseiller de 2ème Classe
Représentation de la RIM auprès des Nations Unies à New York :
" Mohameden Ould Moctar Ould DADDAH, Conseiller de 1ère Classe
" Mme Kane née Safiétou SY , Conseiller de 2ème Classe
Ambassade de la RIM à Ottowa :
" Yahya Ould Taleb ABDOULAH, Conseiller de 1ère Classe
" Bah Ould KABER , Conseiller de 2ème Classe
Ambassade de la RIM à Paris :
" Tah Ould Mohamed YEHDIH, Conseiller de 1ère Classe
" Boudbouda Ould Bouamattou ,Conseiller de 1ère Classe
" Cheikh Ould KHATTARY , Conseiller de 2ème Classe
" Salamamine Ould MAOULOUD, Secrétaire 1ère Classe
" Mohamed Mahmoud Ould MOHAMED, Secrétaire 1ère Classe
" Aminetou Mint Mohameden Baba , Secrétaire de 1ère Classe
Ambassade de la RIM à Pretoria :
" Sidi Ould BOUMOUZOUNA, Conseiller de 2ème Classe
" El Moctar Ould AHMED, Secrétaire 1ère Classe
Ambassade de la RIM à Rabat :
" Sidi Mohamed Ould Mohamed, Conseiller de 1ère Classe
" Hayati Mint MAMOUNI , Conseiller de 2ème Classe
" Moulaye Ould Ahmed LABEID, Conseiller de 2ème Classe
Ambassade de la RIM à Riyadh :
" Mohamed Ould Mohamed Cheikh, Conseiller de 2ème Classe
" Ismaïl Ould Ahmed, Conseiller de 2ème Classe
Ambassade de la RIM à Sana'a :
" Mohamed Ould Sidi Ould Blegroune, Conseiller de 2ème Classe
" Mohamed Lemine Ould Mohamed Abdallahi, Conseiller 1ère Classe
Ambassade de la RIM à Tokyo :
" Abderrahmane Ould Boufreiwa, Conseiller de 1ère Classe
Ambassade de la RIM à Tunis :
" Marième dite Zeinabou Ba, Conseiller de 2ème Classe
" Eby Ould Mohamed M'Bareck , Conseiller de 2ème Classe
Représentation de la RIM auprès de l'UNESCO à Paris :
" Harouna Traoré, Conseiller de 1ère Classe
" Babacar Ould MOHAMED BABA, Conseiller de 1ère Classe
" Zeinabou TANDIAN, Conseiller de 1ère Classe
Consulat Général de la RIM à Bissau :
" Salek Ould Ahmed, Consul de 1ère Classe
Consulat Général de la RIM à Brazzaville :
" Sidi Ould GHADI, Consul Général de 2ème Classe
" Moustapha Coulibaly , Consul de 2ème Classe
Consulat Général de la RIM à Casablanca :
" Mohamed El Hanchy Ould Dehah, Consul de 2ème Classe
" Sidi Mohamed Ould El Moustapha, Consul de 1ère Classe
" El Houssein Ould Sidi Brahim, Consul de 2ème Classe
Consulat Général de la RIM à Dakar :
" Bouthia Ould Zouber, Consul de 1ère Classe
" Mohamed Vadel Ould Cheikh Bouya , Consul de 1ère Classe
" Mohamed El Moctar Ould Biddah , Consul de 1ère Classe
" Ahmed Ould Zeine Ould Deymani , Consul de 2ème Classe
Consulat Général de la RIM à Djeddah :
" Cheikh Ahmed Ould El Moubarek, Consul de 1ère Classe
" Mohamed Salem Ould Med Lehbib dit Haboud, Consul de 2ème Classe
" Marième Mint Aoufa, Consul de 2ème Classe
" Ahmed Ould Elemine, Consul de 2ème Classe
Consulat Général de la RIM à Las Palmas :
" Cheikh El Welly Ould MEMMOU, Consul de 1ère Classe
" Moulemnine Mint Cheikh, Consul de 1ère Classe
Consulat Général de la RIM à Niamey :
" Ahmed Ould Cheikh, Consul de 1ère Classe
" Iddoumou Ould Abdel Khader, Consul de 2ème Classe
" Mouhamedou Ould Abderrahmane, Consul de 2ème Classe
Consulat Général de la RIM à Paris :
" Abada Ould Chiekh Abderrahmane Ould Bellal, Consul de 1ère Classe
" Eïdda Ould Mohamed, Consul de 1ère Classe
" Abderrahmane Ould N'Diayane, Consul de 1ère Classe
Points Chauds
Note: Info source : Points Chauds
Something important for the Daddahistes
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I recall that AOD is not at all a good polemist and he may be beaten up by Sidioca during the debate. He needs to really work hard on the main economic and social dossiers and straighten up his ideas. This is no time to say for example that he does not know in detail about the major economic issues or refer to a ruler of ten centuries ago as the best democratic leader he knows. That is just crap. He did poorly twice (not to mention his recent interview in JA): in an interview in Paris and his televised interview in Nktt. Hope he has a good team to help him, instead of the usual saffagas quick to move to the next candidate if they feel that he will be losing. I do not know Sidioca and he better be clear and avoid very general statements like last time as no one will be giving him a blank cheque. I am neither AOD nor Sidioca. Just a citoyen lambda who wants the best to win. I am just in the middle: not AOD and not Sidioca. The only thing I do not want is mediocrity in the next administration and the roumouz el vessad no one can change. Cheers. Tidinit
We are only 1 day away from the debate and it is only me Tidinit who is moving since last night. Don't forget emmain atay or the coffee maker for tomorrow night. A pen and a pencil will also be necessary to take note. Cheers. Tidinit
Finally the worries of those of us who want change to take place in this poverty stricken country are allayed with the news that Ould Mauloud stayed true to his principles and gave his support to Ahmed Ould Dadah. Waiting for Massoud to follow suit, this is the only way to stand in the way of Sidioca.
An ano note from former X ould Y blog, dated 8 march 07 (below this note).
Ahmed has to really do good at that debate tomorrow. Messaoud and Maouloud have joined AOD and Sarr has no other option but to join AOD. So voices he will have them potentially if he does good tomorrow night. Otherwise if Sidioca succeed in convincing to do better, even with his roumouz el vessad, he may win. Lots of Mauritanian like a corrupt environment because lots of prople strive in it like during Taya time. Lots of people saying so in the streets in Nouakchott: such as "those of have not made it during Ould Taya's time will never make it"and "those who did not die of hunger during Ely's time, will never die of hunger". I forgot the one during Ould Daddah's time. It tells you the mentality of people at home.
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Anonymous said...
Je ne voterai pas pour Ahmed apres sa pietre intervention ce soir sur Aljazeera.
Salut
08 mars, 2007 01:21
I've been following very closely the ongoing national debate here on this blog and elsewhere and was struck by the sheer focus on political issues which are too vague and general to be met any time soon by the next government or the one after. Questions like national unity, identity, stability and rule of law are now hijacking the debate, making it more and more difficult for us to hold our candidates down to any specific and achievable objectives. No one is going to deny the above general political issue and yet to meet them we have to resolve a number of other more urgent and practical problems, like poverty, health insurance, education and modernization of our big cities. Vague issues like national unity will be met only when the Mauritanian individual is able to enjoy his basic rights and relate to the country in which he lives. It's not by repeating highly intellectual and elite words and concept that we can tackle the thorny problems that plagues. Let's please be pragmatic and focus on matters that affect people's lives instead of reiterating abstract concerns which divide more than they unite and worse muzzle the true worries of our ordinary citizens.
Lavrak
Gentlemen, make no mistakes about it. The pending face to face is not going to change views about the candidates or affect their ratings. And if it does, it won't be because Ahmed outshined Sidioca or the other way around. Rather, the biased attitude of the journalist moderating the debate would make the difference. Keep your eyes fixed on the anchor, watch his smiles and frowns, sheers and jeers and follow his questions as he moves from one guest to another. It's these small but highly significant details that will decide the winner from the looser in the debate. After all both candidates will not bring bombshells, it will be the kind of talk you are all familiar with. So, this is your example: if the moderator turns out to be Ould Amjad or Ould Mamma or Ould Bouhebeini, have no doubt Sidioca will look in good shape and come out a winner.
mom
Mom, I agree. I fear the debate will be a ruse to sell one of the candidates. Tell me the moderator, I tell you the winner. Already it looks sham, but will AOD be so naive to give Sidioca this chance if the whole interview is meant to promote him?
Is it true Ould Mauloud has announced his support for AOD? Or is it just rumors?
True. It is in the news
Good call Mohamed Ould Maouloud! youd didn't disappoint me :)
True Ould Maouloud decided to back AoD, according to alakhbar.info, it has been always his intention, but because of some people within his party (figures from taya's regime) it took him a longer time to convince these guys.
This is particulary good news for Ahmed, Mes3oud should follow, so should Sarr. Personally, I think that Maouloud, hanana, mes3oud, and Sarr are extremely valuable, not only because they have a good percentage in total, but also because of the nature of their supporters. Contrary to the supporters of ZZ, They are "real." what I mean by real is that they are supporting these guys for a specific reasons and ideologies. And if I am not mistaking, they will follow them wherever they go. ZZ and sidoca's supporters are "for sale," they go for the highest price, this indeed means they will go for Sidioca.
We will see what's gonna happen in the upcoming days enchalahou.
Tidinit, you mentioned that you are Asian/in Asia. What do u think about conducting business with me, I will not rip you off. I give you my word:)
Mom, Un chinguittois is still jobless, this reflects bad on u.
Talk to you later!
No problen Un chinguittois. Which kind of business are you talking about? You name it you have it. Tidinit from Southern Asia
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Tidinit, you mentioned that you are Asian/in Asia. What do u think about conducting business with me, I will not rip you off. I give you my word:)
hi un chinguitois,
honestly I don't know how they make money there in the US. Someone as smart, lovely and easy going like you must be a good asset to any prospective employer. I don't see how anyone can turn you away, true as you're to your Chinguitti's roots. How can I help advance your career? You can't tell how much I can help, just tell me where you most fit.
One more thing, greatly miss you in this platform, your platform.
Tidinitt
I really appreciate your entrepreneurial spirit. You're quick to extend a hand of partnership to UN CHINGUITTOIS, no venture no gain. I already see you running a huge business back home by 2012, you remember the date. Don't you. We had a deal, keep it in mind (lol).
By the way, I see that we're loosing Californian. It's a real pity and a real loss. Hope we have been a good host as he has been a great guest.
Lavrak
I can't agree more. Your point about the paramount importance of issues like poverty and social services is very relevant. It appears, though, that people enjoy politics for what it is not what it does to their lives
mom
Thanks mom. As you said we're not yet where we can talk sense. Political slogans come first and real issues are ignored.
On another plane:
Now, aod and sedioca are doing their campaigns at home or in offices. Each one is content with holding meetings with the first round losers as if they really matter. None of these losers can guarantee but his own vote, which he may even be too lazy to cast on 25 this month. We tend to say this has true followers and that doesn't. the fact of the matter is that there no followers but voters that candidates have to go and see them, talk to them and try to persuade them. Now both Sidioca and Ahmed are following a different strategy which will lead to the following:
-We will see a very low turn out in this round. Because voters have not been engaged by the two candidates. A low turn out will certainly undermine what we want to see as our first free democratic event. Let alone that it will send to power a president who won the polls but not the support of Mauritanians.
-Ahmed will suffer most because he relies on the vote of the supporters of the CFCD members. But he will see that these supporters will disperse and vote along other lines not necessarily political or ideological. If keeps this lame duck attitude and doesn't go to the voters themselves he risks having only the four members of the CFCD voting for him.
-Sidioca may be luckier than his rival. He relies on tribal allegiance which is more stable and on money to buy voters. Two undemocratic but viable ways to make sure his supporters will stand by him.
Lavrak
Worst scenario: Sidioca wins and Ahmed refuses to recognize the results. Then we will have a situation similar to the aftermath of 1991 election when the opposition threatened to march to the palace and impeach taya, only now it may be worse.
Lavrak
You said what everyone else avoid to say or think about, the fear that voters will not follow the choice of their favorites in the first round. No one wants to think about this likelihood even though we all know it's there.
where's Massoud? can you believe it, Massoud is taking all this time to decide not to vote for the cronies of Taya. Shame, real shame.
Hi everyone,
Thanks mom, I am flattered :)
An update that I found rather shocking: Mes3oud decided to back SIDIOCA, it's clear now how things are in our society. It all comes down to "el messale7e."
I have to admit it though, SIDIOCA seems to be more generous in his offers than AOD, he is, however, sending diffrent signals.
I read that one of mes3oud's conditions to join any candidate was the prime ministre/presidency of the parliament cabinets so was ZZ condition. I dont see how SIDIOCA can keep all these generous promises he had made.
If he wins, God forbid, I hope he will let these guys down lol.
AOD needs to work on his negotiation skills. You can't lose so many people to a guy endorsed by a notorious group, "tis3etou rah6in."
A plus
Massoud decides to vote for Sidi Ould Cheick Abdallahi. A big hit to Ahmed Ould Dadah.
mom
The is the end of Massoud, already he failed to receive in the first round more than 7%, now he sealed his fate. Of course we will hear excuses of different sorts, that it was the "Naseeriyeen" who were behind this decision to support Sidioca and Messoud was under tremendous pressure, and such kind of streams of nonsense. I have always laughed at allegations that Massoud was Smassid's man in the opposition and always thought it was a kind of silly conspiracy. Now, don't tell me that the man who insists has fought his way to popularity by standing up to autocracy and feudalism is not able to fight back a band of Nassirists who don't have any weight whatsoever. No, please give me a break, who's going to believe that Massoud has anymore credibility. My solace is that Lehratin will vote against his decision to Ahmed Dadah, if they don't be sure the entire question of social justice will be blown into the wind. Believe me it's not about who wins that I'm lashing at Massoud, rather it's about the country being at the threshold of new era and those who were thought to be the nation's symbols are letting it down now. Don't talk to me about differences with AOD. Mauloud has difference with AOD and Hanana and the Reformists, differences deeper than those between Massoud and him. Yet everyone is ready to put his differences with AOD aside except Massoud. This excuse simply doesn't hold. SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAME on you Mass-oud (in Hassanya means leaking a stick). In fact Mass-oud is leaking the shoes of Sidioca.
Up to now the thought has been that Massoud is delaying his support for AOD to force him give a room for the CFCD members and not continue his go-it-alone policy. But no one ever doubted that at the end of the day Massoud will rally his friends in the opposition. This news that he chose Sidioca is really shocking and will affect him among Haratins first and the wider population second. Again, I can't yet see why.
Ano: 01:31
You forgot other fashionable alibis, for the list is too long. People are saying already that it's the fault of Aod who didn't deploy any effort to convince Masoud. Another Alibi, Sidioca was a better negotiator, he offered Messoud the post of Parliament speaker or PM. What is funny is that we're blaming AOD for failing to convince Massoud to serve his country by opposing Sidioca and his gang of thieves. And worst, as if the first excuse is not that tenable, Massoud is rallying Sidioca because he tables a big offer. We're lead to ask what a great politician is Massoud, winning this top post even from his enemy. Well, Sidioca is tabling more important offers to Rumuz elfassad like Lumrabutt, Cheikh Alafia, Sqair Ould Mbarek. Welcome Massoud in the world of good offers, the world of the mafia.
Mom,
I have been visiting this blog religiously every day, but without much time to spare, could not make any contributions recently. I am content reading all the valuable contributions from the new members of this community and marvel at the intelligence of my fellow Mauritanians.
I look forward to the televised debate tomorrow and hope that the network won’t be too busy for me to watch it here. I am not holding my breath anticipating some ground breaking ideas and an outstanding show of leadership. I am merely hoping that the experience will go well and set the ground for future debates among better candidates.
Californian
california,
you finally showed up, the blog needs ur californian perspective and the "california effect" u bring to the table, so u should try to comment as often as possible. If u dont have the time to think about what u should say, just bullshit or tell us a story about ur childhood :) it's all good.
Wouldn't be funny if the candidates start beaten each other tomorrow? just a thought that crossed my mind lol
A plus
Read on Sahramedia: the face to face has been called off to next Thursday at 21:00 pm. It appears that there's also another change of schedule as there'll be one face to face aired simultaneously on both tv and radio. Hope they won't cancel it definitely.
mom
like what HANANA did for us you guys still remammber
I just can't believe my eyes this morning in reading that Messaoud joined Sidioca. My assessment: he knows that Sidioca may win because of the support from the majority of the transitional government + the big part from CMJD + ZZ and his rich people.The regionalist campaign against AOD is being used viciously by the Sidioca camp and may break AOD. They certainly bought Messaoud in by promising him a position in the new government. People are sometimes so destitute that they have to listen to their belly, rather than their mind. My candidate was Messaoud because he was the only one among the politicians who sticked to principles. Will Sarr join in too? Hope we will have the TV debate. Tidinit
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mom: Goul Inchaallah for 2012 (your message below). But I will deal with Un chinguittois well before 2012. Let's prepare all of us for that date (me a big business and you and the other girls and guys taking over the lead home and I will finance you). With the things going as they are, I see no hope with the ageing political people holding us hostage in a status-quo ante situation. Cheers. Tidinit
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Tidinitt
I really appreciate your entrepreneurial spirit. You're quick to extend a hand of partnership to UN CHINGUITTOIS, no venture no gain. I already see you running a huge business back home by 2012, you remember the date. Don't you. We had a deal, keep it in mind (lol).
Can someone confirme that the debate is scheduled now for Thursday 22 March, instead of Tuesday 20 March ? (got it from Sahara media). Three days before D Day is not good and fair. Tidinit
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Débat télévisé finalement fixé pour jeudi 22 mars
Le débat télévisé entre les deux candidats du deuxième tour Sidi
Mohamed Ould Cheich Abdellahi et Ahmed Ould Daddah, prévu
initialement mardi 20 mars à 21h, a été reporté au jeudi 22 mars à la
même heure, indique SaharaMedia qui n’a pas donné de précision sur la
source de l’information ni sur les motivations du report.
Ibrahimma Sarr finally decided to support Ahmed making up for the damage caused by Massoud's preference of Sidioca.
mom
Mom, good news we almost lost hope after Massoud's betrayal. Sarr is a good politician and a righteous public figure who puts the interest of the nation before his own. His support for AOD is decisive, not only because he received 7 percent in the first round but also because of his influence in the southern valley. Nothing is lost now and AOD is still well in the race, and as mom said what he lost by Massoud's miscalculation he gained from Sarr's patriotic decision.
LAVRAK
The TV debate might happen tonight. Don't trust Sahara Media as they have not confirmed anything. Tidinit
The face to face was postponed and may be cancelled altogether when Sidioca contacted the tv and told them he was buy.
Sarr: politics is the art of making ideals a reality
Massoud: politics is the art of making personal interests a reality.
I'm not going to vote for ADO, I'll vote against Sidioca and Messoud, the worst alliance our country ever saw.
After his announcement Massoud passed by an old lady who supported him in his campaign she told him "In this country, you’re the only one currently selling slaves". Massoud continued his walk of shame without saying anything. This tells it all.
And those little greedy, veracious hungry who call themselves Nassirists, you make me sick. You are a disgrace to everything that Nasser stood for.
It appalls me to see all these sellouts negotiating their titles in the next government.
I hear things like “AOD is obsessed with presidency”, “AOD is a dictator, he doesn’t want to share the power”, ”AOD is stiff and doesn’t listen to others ”…Well, no matter how much his haters say about him, THEY never questioned his integrity.
Everybody knows that he could’ve offered to Massoud, ZZ, Dahane and the little ones what Sidioca did. Everybody knows that he would’ve accumulated the votes to win this presidency with which he supposedly so obsessed. But once again he held his ground, he refused to sell Mauritania. He didn’t sell when Taya was in power, and he won’t do it to these special interest seeking spineless corrupts. The truth is AOD stood up for us for 16 years, fighting for the Mauritanian people, speaking up against the injustices of the old regime. He endured prison, isolation, humiliation and wrongful accusations He did it not for himself but he did it for Mauritanian people.
On the other hand Sidioca, coming out of the blue saying I want to be president. Who the hell are you? That is a rhetoric question of course. We know the answer. The answer is: this the actor ”leading role” in Hmaida’s scandal, he was caught red handed stealing public money and getting bribes. He went to JAIL –not prison-. and then disappeared in the African jungle. Now coming back as the candidate of “assurance” !! Are you kidding me? What the hell is wrong with you Mauritanian people? For how long will you take these kind of insults?
I have no personal relationship with AOD, never seen him or talked to him in person, never voted for him-never had a chance lol- but I know one thing: Ahmed cares. He cares about the poor, he cares about the sick, he cares about the unemployed, he cares about the illiterate, he cares about all those that nobody cares about. That’s why I think that this is our last chance to do the right thing, to tell all the “roumouz el vasad”: ENOUGH IS ENOUGH, we want our COUNTRY back. We want our unity back. We want our dignity back. We want our freedom back. We want our DREAM back. Voting AOD may not make the dream come true but it is the only way to keep it alive. Voting Sidioca is voting for the status co, and statusco kill the dream.
EYOUB
TV debate: got again news that the debate of Thursday will be transmitted direct on Al Jazeera (source: someone from canalh). I just can't believe it will happen. The reasons: (i) Sidioca camp may not need it as they have Messaoud and buying off anyone important (according to true or false news from Nktt, Col. Aziz seems to be busy doing that); (ii) the AOD camp may be frightened by the prospect of AOD not doing well in the debate.
TVM is not doing too much publicity about it and this is perhaps they been told to take it easy and lay low like an enveloppe.
Make sur you check on the debate time. Lots of people are manipulating things now.
Cheers. Tidinit
Eyoub, you're warmly welcome among the community of the bolg, your insighted contribution is greatly appreciated as it shines an interesting light on the plight of our political life.
Tidnitt, it looks like the debate is not going to take place. With only few days to go, the two contenders will be too busy to have any time to spare. As well as the reasons you just cited, neither of the two has anymore trust in the other to sit down and talk to him. I also think Aljazeera won't have time to air the face to face, plus the channel is not used to it.
mom
That was my guess: no TV debate and they fear doing so. Very impressed by Ayoub's stance. Cheers. Tidinit
Girls and guys (I am gender sensitive today because the subject below is IMPORTANT)
For those of you who have no problem with messages in French. I found the note referred to in the link below very good and hair raising like hell. It is not about ZZ, but about the military people. What do they want and what are their plans? Col. Aziz is apparently busy campaining for Sidioca, while Prez Ely (God bless his hide) is happy to get the hell out of politics for 5 years and not to be seen messing up his reputation again, so that he can come back quietly by 2012 (Un Chinguittois enta vem?). But what about if Col. Aziz does not want that? Where Col. Aziz will be after the elections? Head of the Army staff (Etat-Major) or the Chief Indian of BASEP? What about the other CMJD members? We civilians are just keeping our attention on the elections now, between AOD and Sidioca, while we forget the big picture: power and the military in Mauritania. I loved the article and the author is not stupid at all. Please read carefully and think and think again. Don't shoot at me before reading and thinking about what you are going to say. Love you. Tidinit
http://www.mauritanie-web.com/Forum-Likhyame/viewtopic.php?t=1304
N.B: this is while we wait for the TV debate (Inchallah) as everything has been said about how good or bad are Sidioca, AOD, ZZ and the "treason" of Messaoud.
Tidinit: I dont think that AOD is afraid of dabating SIDIOCA. The good thing that SIDIOCA are so confident that they will think this over and will not work hard, while AOD's supporters are working their asses off and they will get their voters to the polls on Sunday.
Happy to hear that the AOD group is really busy to make sure their supporters go to the poll on Sunday. If that debate can happen, it will be good. The impression I got from my conversations with normal people home is that they are reusing to back off from supporting AOD because they do not want to accept the status quo anymore. This confirms that people are tired of business as usual and will not let it go. The real challenge is to look at the ballots to avoid unfair play. Some people want to stay in or around power so badly. Tidinit
mom,
Once a blog get a good reputation, the administrator can lay back. I am not leaving you. Congrats. Tidinit
hola,
Tidinit, i just read the article, the guy who wrote it has a vast imagination, I dont think that ely, aziz have such a long term vision. If otherwise I am impressed. However what you said about the CMJD is very relevant, especially in the case of Aziz. The man is still young and very powerful. And careerwise, it doesn't get better than being a member of the CMJD, except for the presidency. The other members are old and should be retiring very soon, so they can get the chance to spend "their" money lol.
About ZZ, he has the credentials, he might be one day a president who knows. We should worry more about the upcoming election, and leave 2012, 2017.... to the right moment "ivara7ne velkhavi."
where is Moutabi3e? I do miss her and miss her "tneswi." If you are reading this: Plz forgive me I can't stop loving you, Dont deny me this pain I am going through...
Mom, tidinit, californian....
Anyone interested in a partnership in Mauritania, doing something development oriented?? let me know if you are and send me copies your resumes to see who will qualify for the first round of interviews :)
I know u re surprised, from a jobless to an emplyer, "houwe ella moulane, kerim."
Adios Chicos!
Mom, where are you? you have kept low profile presence in the blog since the election. Well, I can tell that you're exhausted after the campaign and it'll take time to repose. No problem but get ready for the 25.
There's almost nothing new to say since people have been debating throughout the transition period. Well, we can always repeat the story in different ways to keep it alive, and my story is to kick Sidoca off and bring some decent people into power. This is why I can't let go with Messoud's betrayal of his friends in the CFCD at this very crucial moment in the history of our common fight against injustice and the social imbalances which threaten to plunge the country into chaos. Just to refresh your memories, this is not the first time Massoud let down his colleagues in the opposition. The memory of his counsels voting against Qassem Ould Balal in NDB is still alive. That was a stern warning the CFCD should have taken seriously but no one even among the sympathizers like ourselves ever thought that Massoud could go this way and treat the opposition like history. But why not, the guy has sold his own people who trusted him and made him into the leading figure he is. I have only one consolation that this has been a difficult test for the righteous and patriotic politicians for whom the interest of the country comes first and we came out purged of sellouts like Massoud. Thanks God, it's now democracy and we're blessed with the come back of Sarr.
LAVRAK
Can you put my doubts to rest and tell me why an unknown like Sidioca had headed the first round and is expected to win in the second? If we're lead to believe that the whole business is fair and those in power have kept away from influencing it, how come Sidioca is capable of picking up this huge support from tribal alliances and political parties, a support which crosses social and racial barriers. Own his own, Sidioca would pass unnoticed. There's no smoke without a fire and Sidioca is not pushed to the top by some divine power or mere good luck. I'm inclined to believe that Sidioca is the new clown in the farce and those who run the show yesterday are still manipulating the puppets. Go ahead you naïve and childish ordinary citizen!
Un Chinguitois, keep your mind focused on the election, not a good time for distraction. Even though "Kulu Katilin Beynahunna Shahidu" (lol).
I'm impressed with the brilliant minds I read on this blog. Congrats. UN CHINGUITTOIS, I like you when you write and when you love.
Thanks un Chinguittois for going through the text of the bright guy and my ideas of the things that may come. You are right: let's concentrate on the forthcoming elections and see what will happen. There is another link of someone worried and he may be right, in the event that the lucky loser does not accept the verdict of the polls (can still be tampered with as leaving power is not easy): http://www.cridem.org/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=8062
Concerning the possibility of a business venture, don't worry. I have some ideas but missing educated and intelligent people. All the good guys and girls left the country almost a decade or two ago because you could not do sh... because the rule of law was completely tampered with. Let's finish the elections and link up outside this forum. This is the right time for good opportunities, if the CMJD has left anything for the next government (they for example sold almost all the oil blocs onshore and offshore and there are only few left - this needs to be revisited as soon as "they" are out). Cheers. Tidinit
N.B: looks like you are deeply in love with my sister Moutabi3e. She has jumped the bloody ship with Messaoud and is awash with hard cash now. She has no time for you she told me lol. Connecting back to you guys. re-Cheers. Tidinit
Un Chinguittois,
Doing business with you is tempting and we both need the money, but I’ve never met a good business man from Chinguitti. You may be the shinning star they need instead of their beloved son Dahane.
LEVRAK, Tidinit and all the AOD supporters,
Before I start defending Messaoud, put me with EYOUB in the “feeling betrayed” category. I already voiced my opinion about both candidates as two choices that are not the best Mauritania can present. Nonetheless, we are all feeling love, hate, or even betrayal these days. If anything, among the positives to be picked from this round of democratic experience, we are all feeling something nowadays. During Taya years, we were all numb and on cruise control.
Those who call Messaoud a “sell out” are feeling betrayed and may be even hating the guy. The love for Sarr is coming only from those who wanted him to support AOD to begin with. The fact of the matter is, everyone is choosing a camp and guiding his/her feelings accordingly. Few people are taking the time and look at the big picture. The fact is, it does not matter which candidates we love or hate today and which political leaders we love or hate by association. What matters is who will earn our trust once in power and build a foundation for the future. If we take the emotions out of the equation, it really boils down to who is the more flexible and open to change. Change is what is needed by everybody’s agreement. Messaoud is a very assertive leader and, yes, a politician like the rest of them who looked for his interest. He also looked at how best he can influence change. Two type A personalities like him and AOD will clash, as they have done in the past, and nothing will be done. So, does it matter, if he compromised by joining SIDIOCA camp? I don’t think so. I think you are underestimating the man and, believe me; he will not be influenced by Lemrabott Sidi Mahmoud or other Taya cronies. I truly feel that Messaoud joining Sidi is a blessing in disguise. It will not be the status quo if he is in the government.
Californian
Californian,
Messaoud in the Sidioca government will be one of the major guarantees that they will deal with fighting poverty and exclusion, if they win. People are still amazed by the move and let them discover by themselves that his jumping the CFCD ship is perhaps a blessing for the poor ... Tidinit
Hello guys
First let's taste a bit of the new flavor as I can sense a platonic and promising love story is taking roots here. After all why not, this blog is our sanctuary for us, we can do with it as we please, discuss politics, look after each other, exchange worries and most important reach out for the significant other (UN CHINGUITOIS ente vem). Californian, Tidinitt, LAVRAK, the other honorable anoes and I are glad to be a "Serba" or may be "Khattaba" if you judge the time is ripe.
About the building political momentum, it appears that the fall out form Mssoud's support for Sidioca is far from over. True, the political landscape in its current configurations did not brace itself up for an earthquake of this degree and still trying to come to grips with the aftershocks it triggered a cross the political divide. For the Sidiocas, having Massoud on their side does not only prove their ability to set the CFCD asunder but also deal a deadly blow to its leader at a merciless time. It also adds an important 10% to Sidioca's vote basket, making it very likely to tip the scales to his favor. But, above anything else, Massoud represents to Sidioca and his conservative allies the time-long headache whose anti-slavery campaigning has thrown the former regime out of complacency and put it under domestic and international pressure. Now with Mssoud's backing, Sidioca will boast of legitimacy and start his mandate if elected without serious political storms gathering in the horizon. Add to this the familiar Taya's tactic of damaging the reputation of his adversaries and we can understand why Sidioca is so keen on getting Massoud onboard, the purpose being to undermine his legitimacy in the eyes of his followers from Haratin as well as the wider political class.
In the opposition camp, the deception is devastating. In spite of deep divisions and differences on sticky issues, all were expecting a last-minute deal to be clinched which will restore Messoud to where he truly belongs. This is why the news of choosing Sidioca was met with so much indignation and lashing against Massoud. As much as I understand the feeling of bitterness and outrage in the CFCD camp, I still think that this is just the beginning of more serious cracks and splits in the current political alliances which will take place over the months to come. We're now fighting different and new political circumstances with rickety political structures from the time of Taya. More fragmentation to be seen on both sides of the divide as parties and political entities try to reinvent themselves to meet the challenges ahead.
mom
Mom, thanks for the balanced analysis, new and interesting perspective indeed.
You have to excuse me being in California, we tend to think about these kind of things. But it would be absolutly hilarious if Moutabi3a turns out to be Moutabi3 (guy). That would make that "Serba" led by mom a very interesting one. I will do anything for UN Chinguittois, but I may end up denying I know the guy in that scenario.
Hope that picture doesn't negatively impact the love you are feeling Un Chinguittois lol.
Californian
Californian, that's very unkind of you but you threw me in such a paroxysm of laughter I can't control. I keep repicturing the possibility and spin out of control woooow, killing me.
Californian
Frankly i tried to bar the idea from my mind but it kept coming back. I told myself may be I'm too cynical and grew up to see thorns where there are only flowers. UN CHINGUITOIS is still young and he follows his heat which will not mislead him. Tell you what, I laugh each time I think of it.
Sorry Mutabeea, we're just kidding, please forgive this mischief.
mom
You're not being kind to our smartest lady and our most loved guy, Rabeia & Un Chinguittois.
Mutaatiff
I see that Californian has made a joke of my love life, I am disappointed :(
But i got to admit I have to take that case in to consideration, I should be prepared for the worst case scenario. If It's a guy, I garantee you that I will hate him with passion, But I know my heart is right, it has always been lol.
Moutabi3e "ella meste7ye echwey." She is a little shy, I will give her a smile and then she'll say "would you minde sitting down next to me for a while."
To Moutabi3e/ el3elm mavih se7we lol.
A plus
Something to cool off people trying to grab power by any means. Occidental companies are leaving Mauritania because they have better prospects in other countries? Shall this help and let us have transparent polls this Sunday? Lots of people think that RIM is the Kingdom of Brunei. Tidinit
http://investing.reuters.co.uk/news/articleinvesting.aspx?type=companyResultsNews&storyID=2007-03-22T094225Z_01_L2261256_RTRIDST_0_PREMIEROIL-RESULTS-UPDATE-2.XML
The face to face will be aired on National TV tonight at 21:00 local time and will also be aired simultaneously on Aljazeera Mubasheer (Live)
mom
OK, so we all watched the so called debate. Ahmed went in with the need to deal a knock out punch to Sidi. He did not.
Sidioca went in with the need to show that he can stand up for himself and that he has a personality. He was not a push over.
I would give this to Sidioca simply based on that. There was no real substance and the whole thing was full of generalities and promises. Nothing concrete or specific.
I thought both lacked charisma and almost fell asleep watching them. Only when they were talking to each other, that the debate had any flavor. That did not happen very often. It happened twice. When Ahmed accused Sidi of surrounding himself with people who were manipulating and selling the BAC. Sidioca replied with the fact that some of the people around him were with Ahmed and the later was proud of them. The second interesting interchange was at the end when Ahmed did some fuzzy math and concluded that the 75% that didn’t vote for Sidioca were all votes for change. Sidioca didn’t let that one slide either. Ahmed had a “bouvert6euta” moment that I thought was funny. But other than that, I would not want to have cup of coffee with the guy. He seemed rigid and humorless. Both of them were.
PS: I noticed that when Ahmed got nervous he scratched his right ear. When Sidioca got nervous he scratched his right nipple under his “Darra3a”. I don’t know what to make of that lol.
Californian
Sorry that I was unable to watch the debate as I thought Al Jazeera was enough. I did not know then that there was another Al Jazeera channel that was transmitting the whole debate (my TV did not have that one - Amazing none of the international news channel talked about the debate last night, but Al Jazeera in summary during the debate). I called Nktt last night and the conclusion is that both are incompetent and rigid with old ideas. For sure I knew that AOD will not make it. If people will vote for him, it is only to change things, regadless how presidentiable he is. No comment on Sidioca as I feel he will do worse than Ahmed because of the sheer number of promises he should have made with the old guard. I will keep quiet and read a lot about the debate. Thanks Californian with this first report and it tallies with what I heard on the phone last night. Cheers. Tidinit
un mysterieux imitateur met actuellement sur le web des bandes sons attribuées à Ould Daddah. En tant que justicier du net je met en garde contre ces agissements
Donnez-nous les references a ces bandes pour les ecouter. Le controle des idees c'est fini. On vient juste de sortir du temps de Taya. Si vous avez des doutes, telephonez a Ely. Justicier du Net No. 2
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23 mars 2007 13:51
23 mars 2007 14:31
Hi everyone! I do not know where to begin but hope this place will be useful for me.
In first steps it's very good if somebody supports you, so hope to meet friendly and helpful people here. Let me know if I can help you.
Thanks and good luck everyone! ;)
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